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Quarter Horse Chestnut Roan Two yr old  – $200

Two year old filly halter broke, saddle-able, and ground trained has been sacked out shes a little spooky but just needs more work I don’t have the corrals to break her.  she is out of registered stock but no papers.  is bred to a bay overo paint to foal October 20th $200

You don’t suppose that when they said “corrals” they actually meant “cojones“, do you? 😉

Ugh, I don’t know why I’m cracking jokes and throwing down winky faces.  This is gawd-awful!  We debate breaking a two year old and yet here’s the epitome (that’s a little bit of hyperbole for ya, especially given what else is going on in the horse world) of stupid breeding a two year old!  You don’t even know what her final conformation is going to look like!  She still has growing and development to do – which you’re likely going to stunt by forcing her to carry and birth a foal!  (Funny side note: When typing “birth” I accidentally typed “bitch”. Hmmm I wonder if that’s like a Freudian slip of the fingers?)

Why, oh why, did they breed her for an October foal?! Who wants to deal with a brand new baby coming into winter?  Makes you wonder if it wasn’t an accidental pregnancy?  And then, like the hard ass father of a rebelious teenage daughter who gets herself preggers, he wants that little harlot gone from his sight!

“Fillies become sexually mature at around 18 months old, and can foal as two-year olds. However, they are still growing at this age, and pregnancy may hinder their growth. Ideally, mares should not begin breeding until four years of age (to foal at five years), although some are put in foal when they are three.” -from Horses and Horse Information.

But apparently there’s another school of thought which says it’s actually ok for even younger fillies to breed.  However, breeding younger mares was seen to produce smaller horses.  Check out this Q&A on The Horse – note that the answer is from an equine behaviorist, not a veterinarian, and also she’s discussing wild horses in a herd – not an unpapered filly in someones backyard.

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Posted on April 16, 2012, in Bad Horse Ads, Conformation and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 27 Comments.

  1. The only way I can ever begin to describe this asshat is a complete cerebral midget!!

  2. My god, it’s like getting a 13-year-old pregnant *headdesk* (I actually looked this up on a horse-human age comparison, and I was just guessing, but holy crap I was right! lol. 2-year-old horse = 13-year-old human).

    Actually, looking at that horse-human age chart… I feel like every single person who owns a horse should have this blown up to be gigantic, laminated, and permanently affixed to some place where they will not be able to ignore it. You think maybe, just maybe, people might stop to think before they start working that 1-year-old if they realized a 1-year-old horse is like a 6-year-old child?

    • Makes You Wonder

      I know a lady who breeds 2 year old mares to her unregistered and un-broke because he’s lame stallion. Coincidentally, her 13 year old grandaughter is also pregnant. I think we may be onto something here…

  3. What I don’t get is how you can possibly mistake the fact that a 2 yr-old is still growing. I mean, really? My 2 yr-old is 15hh, he’s almost taller than mama, and yet, he LOOKS like an immature baby and completely unable to carry a rider.
    I’ve yet to see a horse under 3 that looks ready to start.

    As for these asshats, hopefully this filly finds a home where the people who read the add *facepalmed* mutter “jesus h, effin C****” and brought her home to grow.

  4. This makes me almost as angry as when I see a neglected, starving horse!!! Totally wrong on so many levels…

  5. Oh god. That poor baby 😦 I think the owners need some revision on colours as well since to me that filly looks either wild bay or dark brown. Nowhere near light enough anywhere for roan, particularly chestnut (strawberry) roan.

  6. She’s just plain bay. Not chestnut, and certainly not roan. So did he even take a photo of the right horse?

  7. She looks kind of cute, and I like her expression. She totally has a baby face.
    And yeah, she is BAY. Good ol’ BAY. With chrome.
    What in blue blazes is Wild Bay? It sounds like an Old Spice fragrance, or a mixed drink from Red Lobster.

    • They call a horse a wild bay when they’re bay and the black points don’t go up as high as a normal bay. I had a wild bay, her black points only went to her fetlocks. This one isn’t wild bay though, her points go up to her knees and hocks.

    • I’ve always heard of Wild Bay being a bay that doesn’t have very pronounced black points, I think the basic genetics are the same, they just look a little different.

      • Never heard of “wild bay” either, although I’ve heard of a bay with minimal black refered to as a “washed out” bay. Seen them too….red or brown color with definate BLACK mane & tail, but the legs went from brown straight into while socks….no black between the brown and sock. Was INFORMED that it would technically be a “sorrel” since a sorrel has red or brown coat with different colored (either light or dark) mane and tail. A “chestnut” always has the same color (red or brown) mane and tail as it’s coat color. But different breed associations will list these as different colors and they all claim to be the “correct ones”. And don’t even cross the pond to Europe as their color definitions will really mess with your head. Whatever she is, she looks to me to be a dark bay.

        • That’s not true, either. Flaxen chestnut, anyone?

          • Depends on who’s “truth” and who’s “correct” you go by. It’s all a matter of opinion in registries actually. They set their standards for their breed, although it doesn’t mean that a horse of another breed that is that exact color they specify is definately that color. A chestnut in one breed registry would/could be considered as a sorrel in another. Wouldn’t a flaxen chestnut be a sorrel then? Reddish coat with blonde mane and tail? The filly doesn’t look sorrel to me at all. The AQHA, JC, arabian, morgan, multiple pony, and other breed associations ALL seem to NOT be able to agree on coloration. IMO color shouldn’t matter as much as the horse itself.

    • http://whitehorseproductions.com/ecg_basics2.html

      Nice break down of bays.

      Wild bay is “bay” but with very little in the way of black points. Ime, it is often accompanied by primitive dun factor markings as well.

  8. Wouldn’t she have black legs and black points if she was a Bay?

  9. with her being so dark she may actually have them and them just not show up very well in a crappy picture. The only way to tell for certain would be genetic testing. On another note, would someone PLEASE get that long skirted saddle off her back and teach theses people what a properly fitted saddle skirt looks like?

  10. If she’s due in Oct… she was bred as a yearling/long yearling. Hell, possibly on her first heat, which makes it entirely possible that they have their mares and youngsters running with their stallion and it may be her own sire.

    Poor baby.
    Fecking asshats.

  11. She’s actually kinda cute but way too young to foal. She’s only a baby herself.

  12. Stupid idiots like that don’t need horses. I don’t even care if it was an accident, it was preventable. Poor baby.

  13. She’s cute, and not too badly put together (certainly not breeding material but nothing leaps out as preventing a healthy life). Add in an age appropriate level of training and the only real problem is the pregnancy. At 5 months a vet could still do something about that either chemically or physically. For $200 if I was closer I would take a chance on that and just end it

  14. People are stoopid…FFS.

  15. Many years ago, I got my hands on an OLD English book on breaking and starting horses. The only thing I remember from it was that the author promoted breeding fillies. At what age?

    1!

    The reason, as I remember it was, ‘Foaling out at two will make your filly drop her belly and look much better’.

    That’s a great reason to breed a YEARLING. Maybe these people found a copy of that book and read it…

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